A conversation with Lama Zopa Rinpoche
Sangha in the streets of New York
Not long after her ordination, Ven. Losang Kalden was stopped in the aisle of a grocery store in Arizona by a young girl, who was probably no more than sixteen years of age. “I really like your outfit,” the girl said. “It reminds me of Gandhi; it’s so peaceful.”
When Ven. Losang mentioned this to Lama Zopa Rinpoche, he said: “That is great. I am very happy to hear that. You should know that is your benefit to the world. Just to be sangha, that is the benefit of wearing the robes.”
Ven. Losang, who was ordained in April 2006 by Lama Lhundrup, Abbott of Kopan Monastery in Nepal, is the former Barbara Oquest, retired clinical psychologist. She was married with a new house, two cats, and a new car, living the American Dream.
“I said to Rinpoche, some time in November 2005, that if I weren't so old (68) and married I would like to be ordained. He said that that didn't matter – and the rest, as they say, is history.”
Ven. Losang Kalden is now in Tucson, Arizona, following Rinpoche's advice and establishing the Manjushri Wisdom Study Group.
Earlier this year she was visiting Lama Zopa Rinpoche at his California residence, Kachoe Dechen Ling. Her conversation with her guru continues:
Lama Zopa: “If you were sangha but you didn’t wear robes, then people would not know [that you were ordained], but with robes on there is no question. That is how the robes have such incredible benefit for the mind. It is planting the seed for enlightenment when people show respect to your wearing of the robes, or to the robes themselves: This is planting the seed of liberation, and is a way of benefiting sentient beings.
“Some people find they are attracted to the robes, even having the wish to be like that. And if they can’t become sangha in this life, just thinking about it is purification. By generating the wish even one time, they create karma so that in their next life they become sangha … “ More...